Trish Ang
2013-07-19 16:35:35 UTC
Hi all,
Sorry if you were unable to join the hangout earlier this week! Below are
the notes, and I believe they figured out a way to accommodate more folks
for next hangout, which is scheduled for *July 31 at 10:30am PST*.
- trish
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From: <nguyen at uwosh.edu>
Date: Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [PloneEdu-general] Diazo theming hangout
To: Plone in Education Steering Committee Discussion Group <
PLONEEDUSTEERING-L at lists.psu.edu>, ploneedu-general at lists.uwosh.edu, Plone
Help <Plone-help at lists.uwosh.edu>, plone-developers at lists.uwosh.edu
Hi everyone -
Thank you for joining in on the hangout on Wednesday! We hit the Google
hangout participant limit (only 10) - apologies to those of you who were
unable to jump in.
Yesterday a few of us tried the new Google "On Air" hangouts, which allow
10 people in the hangout but let anyone view the live stream, and records
the session to YouTube where it can be seen anytime later.
https://www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/onair.html#
We may try a combination of that and IRC to allow viewers not in the
hangout to ask questions.
We've tentatively scheduled the next hangout for Wednesday, July 31, same
time (10:30 am Pacific Time).
Cal Doval has volunteered to walk us through a presentation he gave, a high
level introduction to Diazo.
Others have volunteered to upload and share bits and pieces of their Diazo
themes.
Below are URLs from the chat transcript that you might find useful.
Kim
http://blog.jazkarta.com/2012/12/20/responsive-design-made-easy-with-plone/
http://www.uwosh.edu/ploneprojects/plone-activities-blog/ploneedu-diazo-theming-hangout
http://rmi.ucdavis.edu
http://regionalchange.ucdavis.edu/
http://afghanag.ucdavis.edu
http://masonry.desandro.com/
http://plone.org/products/collective.portlet.content
slider: http://nivo.dev7studios.com
https://midwest.plonesymp.org/
https://github.com/4teamwork/ftw.mobilenavigation
http://www.teamraum.ch/
http://plone.org/products/beyondskins.responsive
https://github.com/scottjehl/picturefill
http://f.cl.ly/items/3Z2x1U0X2P220a3p3p27/diazo.pdf
On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:40 AM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
I've created a public Google Plus event at
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/ct54e4jcb1snlgkqq5u9pv6u7uc
in which I will post the hangout URL as soon as I've created it.
If you aren't already in the PloneEdu mailing list, please subscribe!
https://lists.uwosh.edu/mailman/listinfo/ploneedu-general
Kim
On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:29 PM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
Hi everyone - a reminder that we will be having our themer hangout tomorrow
(Wednesday, July 17) at 10:30 am Pacific Time. I will send out the URL for
the hangout once it's created, which will also be under my
racialslur at gmail.com account.
For the hangout, I propose we have each person:
- introduce themselves
- describe their level of Diazo knowledge or experience
- mention one or two things they'd like to learn about Diazo
Additional topics we could go into, time permitting:
- responsive design using Diazo
- deployment of Diazo themes to many sites
If you have any sites already themed using Diazo, please share the URLs!
I look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow -
Kim
On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:20 PM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
Dear PloneEdu friends -
On Diazo theming...
---------------------------
Last week, my colleague Brian Ledwell and I were in a Google Plus hangout
with Trish Ang from UC Davis, to pick Trish's brain on how she has deployed
Diazo themes to several sites, including http://rmi.ucdavis.edu. We were
interested in:
- how to serve Diazo theme files remotely from a static web server (this is
specified in the theme parameters, and has the advantage of letting you
update one theme file in one place and have it apply immediately on
multiple sites)
- how to handle themed and unthemed URLs for a site (the public URL for the
site is themed, and the local network URL including port numbers like 8080
are unthemed)
- how to theme different parts of a site (in the rules file you can specify
a different theme HTML file depending on the URL pattern)
- where to store content that gets pulled into a Diazo theme (can use
portlets)
Trish suggested we might schedule more hangouts for themers, so we can
learn from each other how we deploy themes and build them with Diazo. I'd
like to see a "best practices" document as the outcome of these hangouts.
We plan on having the next themer hangout on Wednesday, July 17 at 10:30 am
Pacific (12:30 pm Central / 1:30 pm Eastern).
Please let me know if you'd be interested in joining in!
On Plone 5...
------------------
You may have already read Liz Leddy's blog post on Plone 5 proposed plan
that was developed during Plone Symposium Midwest with lots of input,
discussion, and feedback from many developers and integrators. Here's a
picture I took during that process!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50587980 at N02/9064146694/
Here is Liz's blog post:
http://plonechix.blogspot.com/2013/06/psm-2013-days-1-4-everything-you-never.html
One of the big proposed changes is the removal of portal_skins and
controller page templates (CPT).
As integrators, we tend to do everything through the web (TTW) to avoid
having to write products, either because it's faster to just make a change
TTW, or we don't have file system access, or we aren't comfortable with
Python or writing and testing products, or we are terrified of running
buildout.
Other integrators we know still have lingering fears as to how we could
continue to be as productive as we are now, once portal_skins and a number
of other TTW features disappear. There has been lively discussion on this
topic in the Plone Developers email list but a number of us wanted to
capture our concerns in this document:
https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/blob/master/source/misc/plone5way.rst
We want developers working on Plone 5 to know our concerns so they can
address them early. Having one document to work from will hopefully help
consolidate the many discussions and threads on this topic!
On the PloneEdu web site?
---------------------------------------
At PSM13 Sally Kleinfeldt, William Fennie, and I picked up our web site
revamp effort from PSE12 and focused on writing the content we had planned
to write last year. Mark Corum and Rob Porter created a very nice theme
last year, and it is on a server that I will be restarting. We want to
write edu content for the plone.com / marketing effort which will be taking
place at the Bastille Day sprint hosted at Six Feet Up July 13-17.
Kim
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Sorry if you were unable to join the hangout earlier this week! Below are
the notes, and I believe they figured out a way to accommodate more folks
for next hangout, which is scheduled for *July 31 at 10:30am PST*.
- trish
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <nguyen at uwosh.edu>
Date: Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [PloneEdu-general] Diazo theming hangout
To: Plone in Education Steering Committee Discussion Group <
PLONEEDUSTEERING-L at lists.psu.edu>, ploneedu-general at lists.uwosh.edu, Plone
Help <Plone-help at lists.uwosh.edu>, plone-developers at lists.uwosh.edu
Hi everyone -
Thank you for joining in on the hangout on Wednesday! We hit the Google
hangout participant limit (only 10) - apologies to those of you who were
unable to jump in.
Yesterday a few of us tried the new Google "On Air" hangouts, which allow
10 people in the hangout but let anyone view the live stream, and records
the session to YouTube where it can be seen anytime later.
https://www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/onair.html#
We may try a combination of that and IRC to allow viewers not in the
hangout to ask questions.
We've tentatively scheduled the next hangout for Wednesday, July 31, same
time (10:30 am Pacific Time).
Cal Doval has volunteered to walk us through a presentation he gave, a high
level introduction to Diazo.
Others have volunteered to upload and share bits and pieces of their Diazo
themes.
Below are URLs from the chat transcript that you might find useful.
Kim
http://blog.jazkarta.com/2012/12/20/responsive-design-made-easy-with-plone/
http://www.uwosh.edu/ploneprojects/plone-activities-blog/ploneedu-diazo-theming-hangout
http://rmi.ucdavis.edu
http://regionalchange.ucdavis.edu/
http://afghanag.ucdavis.edu
http://masonry.desandro.com/
http://plone.org/products/collective.portlet.content
slider: http://nivo.dev7studios.com
https://midwest.plonesymp.org/
https://github.com/4teamwork/ftw.mobilenavigation
http://www.teamraum.ch/
http://plone.org/products/beyondskins.responsive
https://github.com/scottjehl/picturefill
http://f.cl.ly/items/3Z2x1U0X2P220a3p3p27/diazo.pdf
On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:40 AM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
I've created a public Google Plus event at
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/ct54e4jcb1snlgkqq5u9pv6u7uc
in which I will post the hangout URL as soon as I've created it.
If you aren't already in the PloneEdu mailing list, please subscribe!
https://lists.uwosh.edu/mailman/listinfo/ploneedu-general
Kim
On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:29 PM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
Hi everyone - a reminder that we will be having our themer hangout tomorrow
(Wednesday, July 17) at 10:30 am Pacific Time. I will send out the URL for
the hangout once it's created, which will also be under my
racialslur at gmail.com account.
For the hangout, I propose we have each person:
- introduce themselves
- describe their level of Diazo knowledge or experience
- mention one or two things they'd like to learn about Diazo
Additional topics we could go into, time permitting:
- responsive design using Diazo
- deployment of Diazo themes to many sites
If you have any sites already themed using Diazo, please share the URLs!
I look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow -
Kim
On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:20 PM, nguyen at uwosh.edu wrote:
Dear PloneEdu friends -
On Diazo theming...
---------------------------
Last week, my colleague Brian Ledwell and I were in a Google Plus hangout
with Trish Ang from UC Davis, to pick Trish's brain on how she has deployed
Diazo themes to several sites, including http://rmi.ucdavis.edu. We were
interested in:
- how to serve Diazo theme files remotely from a static web server (this is
specified in the theme parameters, and has the advantage of letting you
update one theme file in one place and have it apply immediately on
multiple sites)
- how to handle themed and unthemed URLs for a site (the public URL for the
site is themed, and the local network URL including port numbers like 8080
are unthemed)
- how to theme different parts of a site (in the rules file you can specify
a different theme HTML file depending on the URL pattern)
- where to store content that gets pulled into a Diazo theme (can use
portlets)
Trish suggested we might schedule more hangouts for themers, so we can
learn from each other how we deploy themes and build them with Diazo. I'd
like to see a "best practices" document as the outcome of these hangouts.
We plan on having the next themer hangout on Wednesday, July 17 at 10:30 am
Pacific (12:30 pm Central / 1:30 pm Eastern).
Please let me know if you'd be interested in joining in!
On Plone 5...
------------------
You may have already read Liz Leddy's blog post on Plone 5 proposed plan
that was developed during Plone Symposium Midwest with lots of input,
discussion, and feedback from many developers and integrators. Here's a
picture I took during that process!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50587980 at N02/9064146694/
Here is Liz's blog post:
http://plonechix.blogspot.com/2013/06/psm-2013-days-1-4-everything-you-never.html
One of the big proposed changes is the removal of portal_skins and
controller page templates (CPT).
As integrators, we tend to do everything through the web (TTW) to avoid
having to write products, either because it's faster to just make a change
TTW, or we don't have file system access, or we aren't comfortable with
Python or writing and testing products, or we are terrified of running
buildout.
Other integrators we know still have lingering fears as to how we could
continue to be as productive as we are now, once portal_skins and a number
of other TTW features disappear. There has been lively discussion on this
topic in the Plone Developers email list but a number of us wanted to
capture our concerns in this document:
https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/blob/master/source/misc/plone5way.rst
We want developers working on Plone 5 to know our concerns so they can
address them early. Having one document to work from will hopefully help
consolidate the many discussions and threads on this topic!
On the PloneEdu web site?
---------------------------------------
At PSM13 Sally Kleinfeldt, William Fennie, and I picked up our web site
revamp effort from PSE12 and focused on writing the content we had planned
to write last year. Mark Corum and Rob Porter created a very nice theme
last year, and it is on a server that I will be restarting. We want to
write edu content for the plone.com / marketing effort which will be taking
place at the Bastille Day sprint hosted at Six Feet Up July 13-17.
Kim
_______________________________________________
PloneEdu-general mailing list
PloneEdu-general at lists.uwosh.edu
https://lists.uwosh.edu/mailman/listinfo/ploneedu-general
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